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Grading Session for Week 240

lilmangoseed

Mango Queen
Latens
0✦
Exa
⏆0
Bounty
⏈0
Dahlitium (⏆50 per)
0⌯
Bigatium (⏆100 per)
0⍨
Auritium (⏆300 per)
0⍫
Vitatium (⏆1200 per)
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Caelitium (⏆6000 per)
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New Month, New Rotation:


Group 5 -> Group 3 -> Group 4 -> Group 6 -> Group 2 -> Group 1 -> Group 5

Group 1: 1st/5th/7th Divisions/Quincies
Group 2: 10th Division
Group 3: 8th Division
Group 4: 11th/4th Divisions
Group 5: 3rd/12th Divisions
Group 6: AHs/Vizards


Grades are due by Tuesday, 9/4/2012 at 11:59 PM EST
 
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Because school starts this monday I need you guys to send me your links ASAP. I will not have as much time as I had during my off-school period, so please help me out here. People who do not send me their links, or do not post them in the google doc either at all or on time will not get graded this week.

GROUP FIVE GRADING NONSENSE:
In the spirit of taking good ideas from others, Group Five,
to ensure grading order please drop your writing links off at:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AsH5ge9hxuBBdGd2aExjbVpOR05aUW5XNHk0bXEzUUE

If you don't write them down there, I'll assume you guys are dumb, but if it's really the case,
Send me your links you sillies!

Third Division Announcements
DAFUQ BROS

Twelfth Division Announcements
Holler if you need anything to do, want anything done,
or just want to post something you feel needs to be brought forth.

PLOT BONUS = applied.

Ketch – 231 – 00 Div Bonus– 00 Bounty Kan – 00 Division Kan

See my comments on Doc’s side of things for Counter Blowjob. I do want to point out that if you don’t step up your game and post the links in the doc, I will start having you guys PM me them again, and if you forget, I’ll forget grading.

It’s that simple.

Doc – 329 – 00 Div Bonus– 00 Bounty Kan – 00 Division Kan

Sorry for not grading you last week, I was frustrated because no one seemed to care about sending me their links. Anyway, That Place With the Name was good and I liked the interaction with Adelaide. Take full points.

Same goes for Counter to the Counter of the Blowjob of the Countering Blowjob or someshit. I enjoy the continuation of – mostly – Manzou’s arc, and to be honest... it’s about time you guys got somewhere instead of same old same old in and out of every week.

Despite its length there wasn’t a whole lot wrong and it was mostly clean so take full points for that as well.

Kago– 000 – 00 Div Bonus – 00 Bounty Kan – XX Division Kan

Rinku prease.

Links for my grader:
http://www.mangaden.net/forum/showthread.php?36536-PM-Open-Week-240-Walled-In/
http://www.mangaden.net/forum/showthread.php?36578-3rd-5th-Week-240-Building-Blocks
http://www.mangaden.net/forum/showthread.php?36579-3rd-5th-Week-240-Breaching-Heaven
 
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Hey Darlings. So as an overall note, I should be on a bit more regularly come Thursday. With hubby going back to NJ, I'll be a lot more lonely, haha. So I'll be looking for HD writing to distract me. Anyhoo, PMs are running toward the end... Let's finish up strong.



Katie – 53 + 75 Div

I like Natalie a lot. There wasn’t much that fleshed her out in this chapter, but her elusivness was intriguing. I like how she could multitask her job and her concerns about the ring. That alone says that she’s a smart and focused woman. To be perfectly honest, I’d love it if she could meet Videl some day. Nicely done.

Geronimo – 53/53


Vent – 95 + 75 Div

A pleasure writing with you. I love Jamie, and since I rarely see you anymore, I’m slightly terrified that you’re going to make me fall in love with this character, and then disappear. So... don’t go? Kthnx. Anyway, as for the collab... I really enjoyed Lilith’s and Jamie’s back and forth. The two of them are so snarky with each other that every turn was exciting for me to write. I apologize that getting turns took forever from me, but I appreciate your patience and positive attitude.

Also, I need to applaud you for creating a very believable and complicated backstory for Jamie. I know I had given you some opportunity to think about it beforehand, but there were still a few curveballs in there, and none of them threw you off. Really awesome job.

An Appropriate... Punishment – 95/95


Thread - 19

Wish you had written more here... But I can't really complain since I dropped off the side of the planet during this collab too. Nonetheless, it was good to see Hisoka make it out to the other side.

Walled In - 19/19


Hare - 240

Geez, Hare... You and Rob really know how to write things that require lots of commentary...

I was actually really impressed by the amount of fluidity in your collabs this week. Hare and Nana both have rather... blunt... personalities. It’s that sort of honesty that both resonates with the characters’ levels of integrity, but at the same time, can be somewhat off-putting in conversations. However, because of this, it allowed Hare and Nana to transition rather seamlessly in conversation. There was a level of compatibility and comfort that doesn’t usually appear when either of those characters interact with others. Where another character would be turned off or struck silent by a plausibly awkward situation, Hare and Nana met one another with a cool, relaxed, familiar yet equally professional dynamic.

For Building Blocks, I’m impressed by how you were able to discuss so many different things. You did well here with the shifts from becoming a captain, division concerns, family life, hair color, and Idaten. I’m still not crazy about how Nana shut down Hare’s ‘discovery’ of the technique. After all, Hare did discover it. He may not have been alive 500 years ago to discover it before Nana, but he did find it on his own terms.

Still trailing on the subject of ‘discovery,’ this whole idea that Nana was bff’s with Hare’s ancestor and the Uchiharus were a study group for the Gotei as a go-to... Honestly, I think it seems illogical. And it was shortly after Ebisu was introduced that my feelings toward the collab started to shift. Hare was from a very high-numbered district of Rukongai – the dumps, the ghetto. He grew up getting beaten up every day. And out of trillions and trillions of people, he makes the extraordinary accomplishment of becoming a captain. And then – bam. Curveball. – now out of those trillions of trillions of people, he’s also from the Gotei's go-to study group? Also, let me say that from a genetics perspective, this also seems absurd. I won’t go into Lamarck’s theory of evolution... but let’s say that this sounds a lot like that. I generally tend to love your arcs, but sadly, this is not one of my favorites.

Breaching Heaven was also quite interesting. I’m a bit confused though. Izanami was described as “returned from the very depths of the underworld itself to reclaim what she had lost so long ago.” Is she already dead or no? If she’s already dead, I have several important notes in the following paragraph. If she’s not – and this was simply a metaphorical description – then you can ignore the next two paragraphs and read, “Really well-written. I liked this one and all it’s creepy, scary intensity, and I'm excited to see what will happen now that Tsukiyomi is brought back.”

Okay... soo assuming Izanami is dead... I think we should note something important here, which, honestly, I even sometimes overlook. Death gods are already ghosts. So really, ghosts having ghosts gets more than a little repetitive. When I created the mystics, I specifically defined that any departed spirit is a collection of reiatsu and a collection of fragments of other dead souls. Thus any individual ghost is really just a defined conglomeration of hundreds of spiritual entities. It is incredibly rare and difficult for a single spirit to become one whole being – or even become the dominant being – in a defined collection of spirits. Unless, of course, this is a GM-approved return like what we saw with Vincent. I do, however, suggest that the inability to concentrate a single spirit into one being is part of the reason why Tsukiyomi can't 'really' come back.

Okay, with that said, I think this is all stuff you and Rob need to consider when you guys go on your creative spurs. I admire you both so much for your ability to create these creative situations, but make sure that you stay true to the universe you’re writing in. It’s cool and artistic to color outside the lines from time to time, but remember, those lines are still there for a reason -- to bring life to the framework that the HD world has already prepared. But otherwise, if you color too far outside the lines, you might as well just draw on a blank slate and write something else outside of the HD world.

Building Blocks - 184/189
Breaching Heaven - 56/56



Mah stuffz for Hiren, I think?
http://www.mangaden.net/forum/showthread.php?36582-10th-10th-Week-240-An-Appropriate-Punishment
http://www.mangaden.net/forum/showthread.php?36536-PM-Open-Week-240-Walled-In
(I didn't have much time to write for Walled In, so Rob took over for me mid-way)
 
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Beaks: + 150 Division Bonus(Week 239) + 75 Division Bonus(Week 240)

[54/54]I'm Helping:
Yes...yes you are.

Kiyoshi came across very strong in this, which is a good thing. You established his character quickly and kept his attitude consistent throughout the entire chapter. The only real issue that got me to stop and think was this: In a character long since established to have a bad temperament and a tendency to withdraw from others, would this not establish an independent streak with his family?

The characterization comes on strong, but I feel as though you're forgetting to place your characters in a living, breathing world. Characters interact with one another regardless of what is and is not written. Giving the sense that we are not always subject to seeing every single interaction between characters will always make the reader think about how much those characters have really been through.

Overall, great work with the individual characters, but always think about how they relate to one another and how that functions in their interactions.

[226/254]Walled In:
Ah, Tsubaki, let me count the ways...

So, I don't know what the turning point for you was in solidifying your desire to swap out from Tsubaki, but I'm sorry to say it shows.

You had a lot going for you with Tsubaki, and I feel like you tried to pour on too much and wound up muddling her characterization. The work in this collab is solid, but all over the place. Tsubaki's mood swings wildly, her stance shifting to and from protective, accusatory, despondent, grateful, so on so forth. This is the product of a character trying to fill too many roles at once. This is character schizophrenia, and it happens to all of us.

There's really not much more to say other than: I wish you'd reconsider switching from her, and instead sit down and really think about how to make Tsubaki fun and innovating without becoming a dart board you throw random ideas at.


Moony: + 75 Division Bonus

[61/61]Informative:
Ah, subterfuge and treachery, I love it.

A genuinely good read Moony old chap. This was well paced, if a bit clunky at a couple points. The larger paragraphs suffered from a couple of run-ons and your spelling was off in a couple places though, remember to proofread even after posting to hammer out the kinks. Either way, take full points.


Guest Grader: Mango:

[43/53]Walled In:
Tackling this because I've already read it.

Gonna come right out and say it: I was really, really disappointed with how this went down. There was a lot of potential coming out of the maze and unfortunately the collab with Lilith and Ishin went right under, and this one seemed to suffer the same problem. Your writing was solid, the interaction was great and I'm a little touched Lilith actually seemed worried for Arano, but this collab seemed like a lot of wasted potential for all the tension that might've come about from the knowledge on-hand that everyone had to die to come out of the maze.

[94/94]An Appropriate...Punishment
Heh...it's funny because it's...you know...well...yeah...whatever...shut up.

This was awesome. I'm gonna be blatantly honest again: Lilith is best captain. Any captain who successfully pulls of snarky and makes it look like the subordinate's fault has my undying respect. Character interaction was stunning, I want more of these collabs. There is not enough of these kinds of battles of wit in Seireitei. Do moar. moar! MOAAAAARRRRRRRRA:SLKJ:LGSDF


Raph's Links for Week 240:
http://www.mangaden.net/forum/showthread.php?36585-C-Week-240-Is-Freedom-Free
 
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Righty-o, here are those grades. If I miss anything, shoot me a PM:

Trio - As a welcome back present and for still being able to write so consistently even after being gone for so long, you my friend can take all 150 div bonars. Also, I haven't even seen you get on AIM or the chatroom; maybe that's just because I get on really late or something?

[ The Hunt ]: 148/150
It's not everyday you still see PCs with siblings within the Gotei. This was well done, and set up nicely for when the group actually confronts the tail-claw hollow. Other than a misuse of tense and a few missing commas, this was nicely written. To be honest though. I really can't wait until you write the chapters (if you're even going to) that explains why Akio went AWOL for so long.

Raph -

[ Is Freedom Free ]: 52/52
Didn't see any errors and everything seemed sound. Anyways, ahh, Tougen is finally wondering about how his life is going to be different now that he is a Vizard, and there doesn't seem to be anyone out there that can help him maintain some control over his inner hollow. It'll be interesting to see who winds up doing that and if you have a pit session. Also, srsly, let's collab man like old time's sake. I already wrote my first chap with Shunsen's return.

To Kago: http://www.mangaden.net/forum/showthread.php?36536-PM-Open-Week-240-Walled-In
 
I only saw writing from Shun, so if I missed something, PM me.

Shun

Walled In

Grade: 121/121
Comments:
I thought that everyone did a decent job writing this collab. I would also like to applaud Rawb for taking charge, keeping the collab going, and finishing it quickly. But, with all that having been said, 'Walled In' was a little dramatic for my tastes. Yes, I understand that emotions run high when a 'traitor' is reintroduced into shinigami-midst, but it felt like the entire collab was centered on this. It made me question if the enemies were approaching, like Lil setup before disappearing, then why was everyone standing around talking? It just felt off.

Outside of that, I thought Ryoujin brought a realistic opinion to the discussion/debate. He didn't deny that he was tired of being protected, but offered the suggestion that it was time for them to fight their own battles("I'm a big boy now!"). Needless to say, I liked this centered approach.

Take the full group bonus (+150) for pulling up your big boy trousers! n.n b
 
Yep. I’m late. I’ll be grabbing that rei drop here with this weeks stats.

~ First Division ~

Will
214
Full Circle 214/214

Somehow I can’t help but feel like Kazmir’s directions to the three rooms was intentional of Raifuku’s plans. Honestly, with Kazmir it’s hard to tell what he’s doing. Which, from a reader perspective, is good. It makes for him to be an equally terrifying ally (mercenary?) for Raifuku who is already pretty ambiguous and sympathetic.

The fights were pretty well done, considering the amount of people that were in and that which jumped in/out. I know there had been some confusion during this whole collab, but I’m glad to see it worked out still.

+25 div because awesome baddies against awesome heros is worthy.


* Fifth Division *

Nada folks.

# Seventh #
Igs
188
Walled In 103/103
Father 85/85

Walled In wasn’t much for you, was it? Show up, drop plot props, roll out with the gang ready to mess up all the baddies plans. For his part, Igasho was a decent element to throw in. He brought with him the suggestions by Kago, as well as his own, giving Nana fuel to run off of as a leader.

You didn’t have a big part in Sins of the Father, either, did you.... Only a few more ranks in badass and you’ll be there, I just know it. Still, though, you managed to be worth while and contributed a good bit. I do have to say that I’m not a fan of your writing as it is. This has been a recurring problem for me, as I don’t particularly feel the need to cheer for Igasho.

This isn’t always, but in these two collabs it was a major problem for me. Which is a wee-bit uncomfortable giving the praise I gave you for that bounty work a few weeks ago. Maybe it’s just PMs.

+25 div for helping plot

| Guest: Rob|

746
Full Circle 177/177
Walled In 324/324
Breaching Heaven 56/56
Building Blocks 189/189

How did I get the short straw to grade you ... again. (jk mang much brolove to go around. Help me throw some at Wayne. Y’know. In the form of a truck.)

First off, lets get our collabs out the way and- OH MY GOD . . .

. . .

Bro/dude/mang/chillster/broski y we no go easy on collabs? Siiiiigh.

In all seriousness, though, lets get these outta the way.

Breaching Heaven, was, quite honestly unexpected in the way it went. I know what we said what we were going to do, and we did just that, but you threw some curveballs in that writing that made it a lot more fun and interesting. I’m still thoroughly upset that Abe is dead :’( I had plans for that old bastard two sentences into my first turn, and you go and rip out his old, stroke-prone heart and give it to some young gun who’s probably going to die of a stroke anyways (haha what a twist).

Though a majority of the writing was solid, both of us overlooked some errors (I think they’re errors anyways). Nothing horridly major, mind you, but they were there for my sleep deprived eyes to catch (I think). Not counting that one error you told me to fix and I forgot about either. That one is on me.

Oh Jezus. This behemoth. I’m really glad we have plot built up around these two, otherwise I’m afraid any time they’d meet it’d be like a gathering of the unsociables. Both of us writing our characters defending their own side of a room from social interaction with one another (I just got an image of that, and the two of them failing). But really, our characters can kill creative conversations if we let them. Luckily for them we’re there to manage, and during the course of this writing that was necessary for me. I had a problem of writing myself into a corner after your turns. Interestingly enough, if all you do is pull the dialogue for our collab, it really does seem natural. In hindsight we could have cut back on some of our descriptions, but on the other hand it was just so much fun to write our characters as we did. It’s what makes them worth writing.

Now then, on to things not Nana and Hare. More specifically, not Hare.

Poor Nana. Try to rally everyone and head into the face of danger, and what does she get? Moody Tsu-Tsu who, she herself, is ready to off and bop people. I liked how Nana stayed consistent as the driving force for this collab, you even taking it into your own hands to write Lil and Ishin (with approval of course). It was well executed. It was well done, especially with how you just jumped back and forth - checking on Lilith and talking to Tsubaki, as well as managing the lower powered characters. Hope all goes well (yeah, right, ‘cause that’s how these pan out, right?) with the next portion of this PM.

Oh! And before I forget, you were in Full Circle before Walled in. Lemme just go over here and....

So, this was actually the what happened before Walled In as I understand it. You and Ketch really drove this thread in its early stages. I’m also guessing this wasn’t a very active thread with others when it started (Yeah I checked, and the first post from someone other than you or Ketch was 6 days after it started). Still, you helped drive it until others could show up and start making things look like it was bad news for baddies. I am kinda disappointed that I didn’t get to read badass Nana fight, but all for the better with things heading as they are with Walled In. Looking forward to the rest of what happens in PMs.

+50 div
 

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