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Group 3 -> Group 4 -> Group 1 -> Group 5 -> Group 2

Group 1 (Hare): 1st/5th/9th Divisions
Group 2 (Raph): 2nd/3rd/6th/11th Divisions
Group 3 (Katie): 7th/10th/12th Divisions
Group 4 (Hiren): 4th/8th/13th Divisions
Group 5 (Moon): AHs/Vizards/Quincies



Grades are due by 11:59 PM EST on Tuesday, 28 January 2014​
 
Group Two Grading

Rob:

120/130 - A Man's Fountain, A Woman's Shield [5180]

So I was reading this, and I couldn't help but feel like something was up. Something was missing, or wrong. It took me until the end to really piece it together, but it's a two-fold problem: you couldn't have drenched this in more foreshadowing if you tried, and Kyra's character leans extremely close to Nana's.

Let's start with the first one. The conveyance of the collab is very nice, and Lil and you both bring the characters across very well. However, the intentions between Hakan and Kyra, and the goals that Lil is trying to instil in Kyra, are so obvious it felt patronizing.

Process some subtlety through things, nobody - however extroverted, however attracted to someone - is so forthcoming as to repeatedly push someone towards a position as serious as Captaincy. It feels awkward and less like Hakan is naturally encouraging Kyra, and more like Lil is pushing Rob towards going for it. Remember that the IG/OOG separation exists to avoid things going like this, to allow dynamics to form naturally without OOG intentions bleeding through.

The second one is a little easier to explain. Throughout the collab, Kyra reacts with the same sort of subdued nonchalance that Nana is all but drenched in. Blunt, straight-forward, no minced words, very verbally inclined as opposed to physically inclined...

A majority of the dialogue felt as though I could've swapped Kyra for Nana and nothing would've seemed out of place. There are, of course, a few key differences, but you need to seriously find some core traits for Kyra that she can express consistently.

55/57 - Let's Make a Deal [2280]

Rosa whip-lashed a couple times, but I think this is a marked improvement on your works with her.

The overall flow of the collab is great, owed to your experience with Zack, and Allen and Rosa have a really interesting dynamic from what I've seen. However, a couple of inconsistencies kinda ruined the intrigue at times.

Rosa goes from specifically speaking to Allen about her mother, and how her mother could be a big obstacle, but then says she's not specifically worried about her mother. Her mood also seems to whiplash a few times, going from calm and collected to tentative and curious to threatening and cold to cordial and collected again? Remember to keep those transitions clean, her outburst seemed very forced.​

Strait:

60/62 - Battle of the Quickest [1231]

Welcome (officially) to Halcyon Days, Strait! Suppose you're in my hands for as long as you find yourself in the 3rd.

Let's start with the grammatical side of things, real quick. You start out with a great leading sentence ("...What had started as a simple patrol, had gone terribly wrong...") but you would've benefited more from separating that as an opening paragraph. You tend to use sentence fragments, a sentence that's missing a verb or subject. Try reading your sentences aloud and see how they sound: if they read awkwardly, or you can't read them at a natural pace, you should probably look at how to fix that.

I'm gonna give you one other thing to work on for the future: pacing.

Pacing in writing is key to drawing your readers in, and the best way to learn pacing is to look at other writers. Read some of their work, and see where they place paragraph breaks. How do they divide up information? How much information do they give at a time?

What I'd like to see from you in your next chapter is you trying to use pacing to create an atmosphere. Build a tone by spacing things out accordingly. A frenetic, tense scene might be used in short bursts of action spaced with concise descriptions to keep the focus where it's needed. A slow, observational piece might take the time to detail the environment and characters while allowing them to reflect inwardly.

For now, welcome to HD and Grading Group Two. I look forward to helping you build your skills.

66/67 - Trust Me, I'm a Doctor [2680]

Alright, so we're gonna get into a nitty-gritty thing.

Dialogue. Proper punctuation is necessary, and you mess it up a few times throughout the collab. I'm not so great at breaking down dialogue rules, so I'm going to leave a link below, but here's the gist:

"If dialogue starts a statement," you use a comma before the narrative, and a period at the end to denote the sentence's end.

"If dialogue is broken up by narrative," and it's all one sentence, "then you only capitalize at the beginning, and use a comma for both dialogue and narrative."

If you start a sentence with narrative and move to dialogue, "Use a comma, but capitalize both the start of the narrative and dialogue."

If you start a sentence with narrative, move to dialogue, and then want more narrative, "Use a comma, and capitalize both."

Then start a new paragraph for the new narrative.

"Finally, if your dialogue spills over into more than one paragraph,

"Don't use closing quotations on the first one, only use them when a character stops speaking."

Sorry for the big old wall of information to absorb, but it's better to nip this in the bud while you can. You can take a better look at what I'm talking about here: Click here!

Guest Grader: Katie:

Nyet.​

Raph's Links for Week 313:

 
Gloam + 75 Div

You Can’t Be Up Here [94/98]


Gonna random tangent even though I don’t grade you Brood. I swear to brown jesus if Lucia finds out that Theo has been having kinky fuckery on the Fourth roof she’s going to pile drive him into Maggot’s Nest.

Anyway, pretty good job on this Ren. I’m a bit confused with what form Ren was taking. I was under the impression that she usually took the form of a man but Theo kept using the word ‘she’ to describe him. I’m not sure if that was some miscommunication or if it was intentionally like that.

Be a bit careful with some of your descriptors for spells or even appearances. You got a bit long winded in some of them so it was less trying to picture the situation and more trying to figure out what the dozens of descriptors meant.

Setting Plans in Motion [55/61]

You’re getting better at balancing two chars in the same thread. It’s a bit tricky and I think collab fell into the problem most of these do. Ren seemed to be more like an auxiliary narrator in this thread than a full contributor. I kind of feel like if you removed her the thread would have gone on as normal. If you’re planning on using multiple chars make sure that you’re not having one pretty much mega-outshine the other one. Otherwise, it makes me question why they were even there in the first place.

Campfire [88/88]


Such flirting. Wow. Shipping hard.

Anyway, good collab. It was nice to see Nevada introduce her decision to actually swap and weighing on it. From her tone it seems like she’s still pretty up in the air about it. That being said, you and Pho did a good job in setting the mood and it actually was a pretty nice and fun collab to read.

Doctor [66/67]


Congrats on your first obligatory healing collab. There’s going to be plenty of these to come. Anyway, solid stuff, pretty similar to how these sort of ‘let’s fix you up’ collabs go. There’s not much input I can give on this since I’ve read stuff like this before. Just a general hint but these collabs are ripe opportunities to amp up the character interaction between people.

The Gift [69/69]


Good training start you two. This was actually fun to read. Having Ren actually struggle a bit due to her lack of formal education was a nice touch and I hope this keeps up! I’m looking forward to part two where things get a bit more intense because of the emergency room. You and Nella have good flow going on so these collabs are a pleasure to read.

Chapters [127/133]


God damn. So much reading. Anyway, random pet peeve from me. I’m not a fan of sudden color changes mid paragraphs. It seemed a bit weird when it changed from purple to green for Nevada mid paragraph. Personally, I don’t color code people mainly because from the writing alone it should be evident who is speaking.

Seems like Ren and Nevada are slowly settling into their respective divisions and roles. I’m kind of interested in reading where Nevada goes from here considering with Kago MIA she’s pretty much in charge of Reshin and Hikaru.

I kind of liked your little summary chapter with the diary entries. It’s a pretty interesting way to act as a summary point for people reading it. Though if you want to read some really good notebook things, check some of Will’s writing with Sayis and his notebooks. Those are great reads and if you’re thinking about keeping this up I’d take a look at those.


Resh + 25 Div

Setting Plans in Motion [52/61]


I don’t think people actually mentally think about how dastardly their plans are. I’ve brought this up before, but the key to successfully writing a brooding, planning person is figuring out what to say and what to leave hidden. I kind of have this thing down considering I wrote the person who got voted the Biggest Douchebag/Psychotic for quite a while.

If you have to tell me that Resh is psychotic then you’re doing it wrong. To do this successfully, you need to have me get to that conclusion myself. Ciro never said ‘MAN IM RATHER INSANE’ (well kind of but shut up Raph). It was conveyed through his actions. For example, instead of simply ousting the old cerberus head, he bashed his head against the wall until the wall was colored a delightful shade of gray matter.

If you want Resh to be taken seriously as someone who’s a brooding, psycho type then you have to work on it being a part of every one of his actions. Make it so it’s my natural conclusion and not something that you have to inform me I should be thinking.

Pho + 25 Div

Campfire [87/88]


As above, great job you two. It was nice and I was really happy to hear Udo’s reasons for swapping because he seemed to invested in the Eighth by this point. Still a bit sad, though I totally saw it coming, that the Eighth is pretty much empty again. Otherwise, the main quip I have is sometimes you had wall of text paragraphs, especially towards the end, that were rather difficult to read through. Add more paragraph breaks so I don’t get blindsided by them again please.

Lost [52/57]


Well this was anticlimactic.... and far too short. I don’t know, I was expecting more from the really solid opening you two had. But like the whole obvious revelation of Toki as a vizard seemed to be not really goad that much of reaction. I kind of was hoping for more of a confrontation or at least questioning since it seemed to gaspedal to the finish after what could have been a really interesting start because they were both ex-Ninth. I don’t know, I guess I was just left waiting for something more interesting to end on.

Nella + 25 Div

The Gift [68/69]


Damn well written training collab. Miyahara seems to be coming into her own as a healer rather well and she definitely pulled the whole instructor thing off really well. It’s kind of funny because this training collab was similar to what Lucia did to teach Miyahara but without the insanity. Just a quick note, a few times you didn’t capitalize the word Miss.

That’s just a minor nitpick so keep up the good work on this and I’m glad that this is stretching into a two parter!

Telltale [20/28]


Well that didn’t seem to go anywhere... I’m still kind of confused what was going on there since it seemed to end in such an awkward place. I feel like it was more time limit’d out than actually concluded. Ehhh, be careful about this since that just made this feel kind of empty to read.

 
Bunz

Calm Like A Bomb [19/19]


Yeah not really enough here to say much about. I think you'll have to give Toki a full stretch in PMs.



Raph

Calm Like A Bomb [41/41]

A short, but useful, addition to the thread. It was a decent way to introduce Mouko and Arano to things and I guess in the circumstances there wasn't much point in adding a whole bunch more. Their roles are clearly going to be more important in the PMs themselves.


Sev


Calm Like A Bomb [85/85] + 1/2 div.

I must say, sir, that you have been very sneaky in introducing the ideas that you introduced here. I wasn't expecting this or the direction you took it at all so kudos to you. I must admit that you did a nice job of keeping all of us under control and corralling the thread so it didn't lose direction or focus. If this is the kind of plotting you have in store with PMs, I can't wait!

Gunning For Promotion [97/ 97]

Welp that was up to your usual standards. I would have to say that I always enjoy Masato as a character, he's just got that whole air about him that you maintain well. The fact that he's a chain-smoker always entertains me for some reason. It is just so....unlike the typical idea of a modern hero where smoking would be like...well like using cocaine (Sherlock reference here). Anyhow you paced things well and interacted well with Twm so yeah good stuff.


Tod


Calm Like A Bomb [19/19]


Good try with the Q mention but...yeah...anyhow take full points because there really wasn't enough here to say a lot else about.


Kat in the Cradle [96/101]

Let's do the good parts first here. I think that you did well with Tod's reactions and his emotions to the situation he was in. I'm not sure that plunging him right into the whole brawl thing made a lot of sense but at least he was consistent in his behaviour.


The issue here is that I really feel like you rushed this out. The fights were a bit disjointed and hurried and you made a whole passel of apostrophe errors, you have also not put any of Tod's thoughts in italics. I guess basically my issue is that you can do better. It wasn't horrible but it certainly wasn't your best work.


Twm

Gunning for Promotion [ 97/97] + 1/2 div. bonus.

Well its always a treat when you get a chance to write something, Twm. I look forward to it when you do put something out and doubly when its a collab with someone like Sev. As always, you kept Ewan in character and had him remain his wise-cracking self. I like it when there's consistency in characterization. You flowed well with Sev and every reaction was pretty well-judged. Good work and I look forward to seeing what else Ewan has in store as part of Orpheus.



Val

Calm Like A Bomb [50/54]

I realize that you were trying to adapt to changing ideas in the thread but this really felt disjointed to me. I felt like you weren't quite sure what to do with Shuku but you wanted to include him so as a result, it kind of bounced around. I'm sure that in actual PMs, it'll work out a lot better but here I got the sense that he was just in the thread for the sake of being there.




For my grader: http://www.mangaden.net/forum/showthread.php?38583-Earth-Week-Calm-like-a-Bomb and http://www.mangaden.net/forum/showthread.php?38677-Week-313-Aftermath-Part-I
 
Dys
We should just polish and post our current collab. Sorry I had to delay those grades to this week, here's 25 Division as consolation.

The Voices in my Head
It was a bit short, but it was a suitable send-off for the Tenth that Was. I was pretty content with reading this chapter, and as we discussed previously, I'm not holding you responsible for changes made to the function of the spell in question after the fact. If this had been the sum total of your retospective, I'd have been quite pleased.
30/30

Don't Let them Die
Kaichuu changes aside, there are still a lot of problems with this collab. It's almost all basic factual errors that should've been easy enough to avoid. There are sine ckauns gere like Adelaide being missing for hours that simply don't make sense - always ask someone before assuming the actions of their character. Another issue that seemed particularly outlandish was the claim that the Tenth and the Spirits had a centuries-old relationship. It was two years. I know you've only known it as the Mystics, but this is a rather glaring continuity error, especially considering this is a response to a collab that you presumably read where it was directly stated that the Mystics had only existed a couple years. You should've noticed by now that you usually impress me, and that's not changed, but when you make glaring errors in continuity, even rather impressive command of writing can't bail you out.
63/73

Beatings and Birdie
Sweet Sappho, sounds like my division members need to be set on fire.
One little thing: it's surname, not sure name. But aside from that, this was a pretty solid chapter. The loss is seeming rough on Adele, and we need to do a collab to fill that void left behind with something other than Americans. It's something Adele can probably tell Robbie next time: typically if a spirit doesn't have a surname in Rukongai they're addressed by the district they awoke in. Sayis of Inuzuri for instance. And though only a handful of districts are named in HD canon, every district has a name. All that aside, this was a good transitional piece.
186/187

Ring in the New Year
This is easily one of the weirdest interactions in a mass collab ever. No further comments are necessary.
117/117


Mango
is Little. And seedy.

Ring in the New Year
I was a bit sad at how small your roe here was, but I understand time constraints and so on. Though some day soon we need to have a nice collab the underwhelming end of this foreshadowed.
45/45


Drag
I have nothing pithy or witty. Have 50 Division. Consolation for an underwhelming mission.

Telltale
So... nothing happened. That was the most round-about, intense, well-planned nothing I've read in some time, so I guess kudos for that? It's definitely a failed mission, that's for sure. And, uh... well, that's all, folks. Not much to see here, just 2K that don't mean much.
112/113


Dil
Hey, 50 Division for the unimpressive assignment consolation prize.

Telltale
Generally, I hate the idea of giving out 140 points for essentially nothing, but as mentioned above this was a very well-planned if poorly executed nothing, and little of it is really toue fault as writers, presumably, so I suppose we just chalk this one up to the great and sad history of things that never quite worked out.
140/141


For my Grader:
 
Bob here for some grading fun times.

Brood: 68/74 +50 Div Bonus to entice you to write better. You cant": 98/98

Reading this chapter always felt a little odd. I had a little trouble following the story myself, and I am not sure how it plays into things. But that's not why you lost points. You lost points due to misspellings and not just one or two, I stopped counting at 7. One or two can slip by even with proofreading, but more than denotes a lack of proofreading. You had a few run ons and poorly written sentences.

The collab with Gloam, was written far better than the first chapter I read. As you can see I didn't take any points off. This collab read as if you spent time looking at it and paying attention to your sentences and that is more what I want to see.

Hare : 57/57 +50 Div Bonus to bribe you for VC :P

The tables have turned. Your writing is beyond horrible, and you dare call yourself a grader and a captain?

Joking aside, everything was pretty fine. A few mistakes here and there, but they were under the margin which I hold for those I grade. As for the story... you know how I feel about Q's. It was a little hard for me to pay attention to the story. I apologize.

Doc : 56/56 +50 Div Bonus for Chen.

I really liked this chapter, bro. I like the character Chen, and you're writing is enjoyable. I am actually interested to see more of this writing, and we should find a way to collab. I didn't see any mistakes, none that were glaring. Good job.

Moon: Calm; 54/54 Aftermath; 53

Calm is interesting, I am glad to see some earth working going on, I plan to work on getting Markus in that shtuff soon. Good job with Zakki, I do enjoy seeing his interactions.

Afermath, is fun to read as well. These are my favorite peices when i can what happens after. I am always left to wonder, when I finish a game, I always wondered what happened after the game is done. Again, I enjoyed your writing, I am deducting 5 points for the sheer fact you did no put a word count in. Bad Boy.
 
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