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Group 4 -> Group 2 -> Group 5 -> Group 1 -> Group 3 -> Group 4

Group 1 (Hare): 1st/5th/9th Divisions
Group 2 (Raph): 2nd/3rd/6th/11th Divisions
Group 3 (Katie): 7th/10th/12th Divisions
Group 4 (Hiren): 4th/8th/13th Divisions
Group 5 (Moon): AHs/Vizards/Quincies​

Grades are due by 11:59 PM EST on Tuesday, 4 January 2014​
 
Shady
Chap 58/58

You wrote? FFS take a div bonus for that. +50 Div Bonus.

Hm. Upfront there are problems with dialogue. Mainly strange capitals in between one quote and another. On the whole it was a distraction, but one that didn’t take away from the goddamn setup. I don’t know why I’m excited for this arc, but I am. You legitimately have me excited for this and I have no clue why.

Actually, I might know why.

This is a fantastic cast for such a short chapter and feels like it’s about to set the readers up for a rollercoaster. Gao reads like a human being that readers can emphasize with, as well as with Xiu, and Daiyu absolutely reads like someone you can feel sorry for but only for a second. I cannot wait to see this story unfold and really, really, hope its filled with a lot of elements that make me enjoy stories like this.

This week take full points and look into dialogue stuff when you get a chance. Shouldn’t take too long. Pretty much just glance at a writing manual and you’re good to go, but if this continues I’ll have to address it more seriously.

Doc
Collab2 100/110
+50 Div bonus

From the get go this collab could have used some editing. Nothing major, but there were noticeable errors that really broke the flow of the first turn. If you see something wrong with your partners turn and it’s an obvious mistake (do instead of to, too instead of to) don’t hesitate to fix it.

Outside of that, I’m not a fan of this collab and mainly for the fact that it doesn’t really give much to readers. It starts off feeling forced and gradually transitions to something smoother, but all in all it could have used more content about the two shinigami getting to know one another and bonding and less technobabble that didn’t feel like it really added anything. A lot of things are described happening to the item, but at the end of the day you know only a fraction bit more about it and it turns out to be not amazing. If you tried a collab like this again, I’d recommend giving something else to happen to Eiji and Keiji so that there’s not a lot of hand-waving science going on.

Why does Keiji feel inclined to help Eiji? Are there more specifics to how Eiji came by the pendant that were simply left out for the sake of moving on?

Context is another thing missing from the collab to really give it sustenance. We’re given a little understanding, but not a lot. Readers could end up feeling left out, or lost, in the story (like me) and that’s something you really want to avoid in all writing. If you see stuff like that missing from your writing or your partner’s, poke them and either talk about it so you can fit it into your turn, or ask them to give some details. Hell, bring it out in the writing is a great way to do it to.

Going back to the revelation that the item wasn’t anything special. When you have something like that, it’s what I understand as a MacGuffin - a plot device used to drive the characters towards a goal. When you have a big reveal coming up at the height of your collabs, a big thing you want to avoid is making it feel as if the reader’s time was wasted. So when you reveal there’s nothing special about the item you’ll need to focus on other things that happened between the characters that makes the read significant.


Beyond that is grammar work with commas we may have to go over if I see repeats, but that’s it for now.

Brood
Chap 50/51
+50 Div bonus

Hm. Interesting setup/continuation of another chapter that I must have missed. It’s nice to see Theo doing more than his simulator work. I’m curious to see what this alleged shunshin is going to do/able to do. I’m more amazed that anyone would have balls to claim that title while Nana has it. Seriously, who wants to take the title of an ancient woman who can disappear and set you on god damn fire? And that’s if she’s bored. God help you if she finds you and takes an interest in teaching you why she got shunshin.

Not much to really say on this chapter. It was short, nice, and will likely lead to good development for Theo while he works out this mystery disease. The only thing I’d like to see you improve on is your sentence structure. More than twice I read something where the imagery was there, but it read awkward. It’s a matter of being clear and getting your idea across to the readers properly. Typically, the short the sentence the less likely you are to confuse your readers.

Example:

You said:
Chills went up the young arcanist’s spine when the words had finally reached him in the small office he had come to occupy.

Just grabbing this out of the first paragraph, you could have rearranged it to:


Me said:
In the small office he had come to occupy, chills ran down the young arcanist’s spine.

If your readers are following you, then they’ll be able to tell why Theo is getting chills, and you won’t need to restate why and gets rid of unnecessary redundancy. Give it a try by going back through your chap and seeing where you could cut some things and add in other details like what’s in Kato’s office.

Finally, remember to be specific when referencing the districts. In Soul Society there are up to 80 districts that surround Seireitei, and they’re broken up into the four cardinal directions of North, East, South, and West. When shinigami talk about District Twenty-Two, they have to clarify Northern District Twenty-Two.
 
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Group Two Grading

Rob:

118/122 - Ego Trip [4880]

This collab whip-lashed hardcore. I appreciate the attempt to keep things under control, but the intent of this collab swung twice throughout, and I feel like you didn't really resolve any of the three topics that were brought up. The issue of Tsubaki's instability gets completely thrown out the window, then Tsubaki's lack of assignments, and then the only resolution we're given towards Tsubaki's need for a purpose is a vague promise without any real substance to it.

Tsubaki levels a small building, bitches at Nana without any real aim, and Nana's response is to logically shut down the arguments Tsubaki presents, before making her Lieutenant anyways.

I'm used to Nana making strange decisions for reasons only she's sure of, but this goes beyond that. Nothing in the collab hinted or so much as followed the notion that Tsubaki was doing anything worth promoting. It's shoe-horned literally into the last round, after the entire collab fails to follow through on any of the topics brought up in it.

Nana's a cool character, and I really like her, but this is a communication failure through and through. The dialogue is stilted and far less dynamic than I'm used to seeing from you, and a couple rounds literally boiled down to Tsubaki and Nana going "Nuh uh, you're scared."

I know it's hard sometimes, but try to keep an open line of communication with your collab partners. This felt like both of you were waiting for the other to really start in on something, and then neither of you did.​

Beaks:

100/108 - Life Levels All Men [2164]

Creepy chapter, but cool. You have good pacing, but I feel like you didn't pay attention last time I graded you. Put a space after your ellipses, and please stop using allcaps. At the very least, just use italics or bold for emphasis, allcaps just looks terrible and is grammatically incorrect as well.

The content itself is nice, but I can't shake a feeling of foreboding. Like this little segment will end and nothing about Tsubaki will have changed? I'd just like to have stuff like this - this gory imagery, the horrible acts Tsubaki forces herself to commit - will have an actual impact on her. It looks cool, and it reads well, but if it all blows over like so much bad gas then it's all for naught.

102/122 - Ego Trip [4880]

A lot of my comments for Rob stand here, but there's a couple other things.

Tsubaki's whip-lashing really hurt this collab, both in pacing and in overall structure. She randomly segues into different topics while alternating between this stone-cold robotic killer persona and her usual temperamental self. If you wanted to make Tsubaki more subdued while this internal conflict is ongoing, there are better ways to do it than to outright contradict her usual mannerisms.

Having a character act more subdued or withdrawn is perfectly acceptable, but even that doesn't matter when the issue blows over in the duration of the collab. I said this before, I'll keep saying it: you need to figure out the intent of a collab when you're writing it. You can't just write whatever comes to mind for a topic and then segue a million times until your word count fills out. There has to (or at least, should) be a purpose to the collab for the characters to strive towards.

Tsubaki's dialogue is very stilted and off-putting. You like to do these short, impacting statements but then contradict the usage of them with long, verbose rants. It makes what Tsubaki says very inconsistent, and often reflects poorly on her persona. Try to think about how she's actually going to speak, both in tone and vocabulary.​

Thana:

48/50 - Alte Beziehungen [1010]

That went a little too smoothly. I find it hard to believe that Izumi would immedately have the book ready, know which number she's looking for, and for the conversation to go that smoothly. Try to bring a sense of realism to it, a mundane quality that makes it feel a little more real.

Also, your dialogue man. I gave the Sprech the one-over on it so I'm giving it to you too:

"If dialogue starts a statement," you use a comma before the narrative, and a period at the end to denote the sentence's end.

"If dialogue is broken up by narrative," and it's all one sentence, "then you only capitalize at the beginning, and use a comma for both dialogue and narrative."

If you start a sentence with narrative and move to dialogue, "Use a comma, but capitalize both the start of the narrative and dialogue."

If you start a sentence with narrative, move to dialogue, and then want more narrative, "Use a comma, and capitalize both."

Then start a new paragraph for the new narrative.

"Finally, if your dialogue spills over into more than one paragraph,

"Don't use closing quotations on the first one, only use them when a character stops speaking."

If you need a reference for this kinda stuff: Click here.

Sprech: + 75 Division Bonus

93/94 - It Takes Two to Tango [3752]

Thad's pretty legit. He's got a nice mix of naivety and perseverance that brings his inexperience up without making it seem forced. One thing I would question: why is Yaname randomly on the other side of Seireitei at the Third Division? The Third and Twelfth are nowhere near each other.

The fight is well-paced, and you've got a good grip on the basics. Try to work on your 'show, don't tell' for action though. When Thad attacks, show us that he leans into the strike when attacking aggressively, or that he snaps his wrist outwards to try and get a quick swipe in. Little stuff like that.

110/110 - Mirror Mirror in the Past [2206]

I'm gonna start by giving you Division Bonus for listening to the critique. Your pacing in this chapter is dramatically improved, and you have some really nice sequences (especially the ending). I do feel like we need a little more exposition on this 'Triple Threat'. Having a good antagonist group is nice, but you can't just have them be assholes for the sake of being assholes. You have a nice little justification from the second group, but the Triple Threat obviously need something from Thaddeus.

Why do they need those things from him? Money? If so, what do they need the money for? What are they trying to overcome by taking valuables from Thad? Try to give us a few hints towards the end for this means. It helps us sympathize with them, makes the black-and-white of the situation with Thad more grey.​

Cur: + 75 Division Bonus

76/76 - The Third King [1521]

So Cur I'm super sorry but your plot created an Avengers Paradox.

Let's get some stuff out of the way first: you're getting Division Bonus for this chapter. Your pacing has improved phenomenally, and this reads super well. Your dialogue is great, and really this chapter is awesome all around. That said, you've blown out the scale too much.

These Kings are literally capable of levelling cities. The Third King emerged from the moon, creating a spectacle that anyone would've seen by looking up. Now, this is cool, but why wouldn't anybody be investigating this matter that's clearly starting to have significant effects on the Human Realm? Like say, Arano, or Zakki, or Masato, or Mouko, or any Advent Humans.

Why wouldn't shinigami be getting involved with beings whose exact nature is unknown? I find it difficult to believe that just Zakeriah and Iblis would have any clue what's going on, or having any vested interest. Try to keep in mind we all share a universe, so something that affects one person is capable of rippling into affecting others. When you make the scope of your plot too huge, it becomes a bit hard to believe that only your characters would be involved.

Just something to keep in mind. Again, props to this chapter because it was very well-written.​

Guest Grader: Moony:

93/94 - It Takes Two to Tango [3752]

So I really like where you're taking Yaname. She's still nonsensical and off-beat, but she's not full-blown psychopath anymore. Your fight writing has improved greatly, but I think you need to work a little more on bringing across your character's actions through their perception.

When Yaname attacks you need to give us the feeling of her attacking. How her legs tense as she springs forward to strike, where her eyes are looking when she's reacting to an attack. Give us little sprinkles of things that tell us that Yaname is involved with the fight.​

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Okay. Shorter grades. Bit busy this week. If you want a bit more indepth just talk to me but I’m brain death. Also. GOD DAMNIT GLOAM.
Gloam take 50 div. Ketch take 50. Minj and Nella take 25 each.


Gloam - ZERO POINTS jk.

I’m Fine [200/206]
So this collab started and hit its stride about midway through. I think what kind of hurt it was simply the fact that it was too long. The scene transition midway through between healing and snacking seemed a bit forced and I feel like it could have flowed better if it was split into two separate collabs. It would have allowed you to refresh the narrative midway through and keep attention a bit better. Outside of that it was solid work between you and Dys.

Royal Flush [60/61]


PFFFT. Ciro wannabe. I was playing with Tarot cards before you were even born sonnnn. Anyway that aside, pretty good collab over all. I did like the card metaphors and it did read like a high stakes games so that’s a plus. Careful, you need to read some of your turns for typos and it’s partly your responsibility to read partners turns for errors to make sure your finished combined product is clean.

Tis but a Scratch [70/71]
Such heals. Very Mend. Wow. Anyway standard healing collab is standard. Kind of waiting for a day when someone does something really unique with it since I haven’t figured out how to do it yet either. I hope there’s a follow up because 1 shot healing collabs are really bland.

Diary of a Vampire [63/78]

Word count. PLEASE. I like the journal style but I’m going to put a warning here on building an entire narrative around it. It’s great for self reflection, but if you want to write an arc it’ll get hard because by the very nature of journal writing you lose interaction and the ability to have a dynamic between multiple people. It’s something that works well when dashed in for flavor, not as the base of the dish. (HAH FOOD METAPHOR.)

Oh God [0/??]

When there’s like a bazillion things I have to read and you tell me that you didn’t WC because you were feeling lazy, I’m not really going to put the effort in to get that WC. It’s a writer's responsibility to help the grader by doing it. If you’re lazy, it’s what you’ll get in return.


Minj
Royal Flush [59/61]

This was one of your better toned works. I think it’s because you kept things a bit more under control and subdued for the situation. There’s still the problem with your grammar and proofreading. There were a few spots of ‘but and’ and other weird sentences that would have shown up in a proofread.

Con Bigger [110/115]

So, as mentioned in Katie's post, if you want to create a noble house you'll need to go and submit it in the noble submission thread in the submission area for approval. It's a thing you wouldn't expect to have to be subbed so I'm not docking points because of that. You're slowly getting better at toning down Hikaru's reactions to more situation dependent levels; however you still have some ways to go. There's kind of the issue that Hikaru seems to get in the mood to kill people every time they disagree with him. It doesn't seem like a naturally reply. Secondly, you and Dys really need to start talking to each other more in these turns. There were moments in both of your turns where you either glossed over what the previous turn was or flat out repeated the previous facts and topics. It bottle-necked the collab and slowed everything down. Also proof readdddddd.

Reshin
Wilderness [45/51]
So problem from the start. I don't care how far go in Soul Society, there aren't hollows in Rukon. Like flat out. If there were it would be a big deal and huge event to deal with. Anyway, even if there were, I don't think Reshin's strong enough to one-shot a bunch of them. Sure maybe the wolves, but they're just wolves. Hollows... not so much. Your pacing needs a bit of work. It was drawn out too much at the beginning that when he actually got to the wilderness, he just timeskipped all the fighting and training? Seems a bit too rushed and you could have expanded that section into a chapter itself to help the pacing up a bit. On the other hand, I'm glad to see Reshin isn't all... hilariously trying to be intimidating anymore.

Nella


Madder [56/56]
Really engrossing chapter. You’ve really refined getting people’s attention in these prose sections. Plus I do like the italics and alignment from a purely typographical state. You did really well in setting the mode and making it sufficiently creepy to read. Great job.

Raph and Ketch
Homage [131/131]
Probably going to gush about this to you in IM but this was a fantastically written collab between you and Ketch. The dynamic between Inori and Manzou and the ideological struggles between them was a great read and you both were on top of your game. The best part about this is that I honestly couldn’t fully agree with either side which really shows how well you two have crafted these individual personalities. FULL POINTS AND MY FIRST BORN CHILD MAN.

Katie: http://www.mangaden.net/forum/showthread.php?38693-4th-Week-314-The-Gotei-Gazette-Fourth-Edition!
 
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So tired. So many kidou to review. So much to grade.
Kill me now.

Dys
Not feeling my normal pith today. 50 Division.

Onsen Adventure
I can virtually promise you whoever grades my part in this is going to tear it into little tiny pieces for being so much fluff with none of the excitement and whatever that shonen manga fans love. I'm going to freely admit that this was without a point, and though that made it actually far more enjoyable for me, it did leave us unfocused.
153/155

Con Bigger than Myself
It looks like Hiren missed this one, which is a shame because I wanted to see if Minj was taken to task for creating a noble house without following the proper channels to do that. Honestly, I expected that to be a momentary issue, but my frustration with that fact made reading this one something of a challenge. I did love the fact that you did plural possessive properly, though, since that's an area of grammar I harp endlessly on. I might have had problems with the underlying premise, but Kenshi's characterization is pretty solid, which is important since this is his first real starring venture. And, of course, I found the aside about Adele being 'married to' Adelaide profoundly amusing. So collect full points.
115/115

Fine
Holy wordcount, Batman. Also, the fact that you both used an approximation of the other's div colr as yours was a bit confusing at first. Still, nothing I couldn't get through. Adele takes a lot of vacations, huh? Though this one I understand. It was a lot like the collab with Annika in several ways, though this one had a bit more seriousness of purpose to it, still they were both much longer-than-average fluffy romps. And both probably drifted around a bit much for most reader's liking. Still, it was an absurdly long buy enjoyable read.
202/206

Adventures of a Roma
I'll grade this, 'cause the timestamps messed up on me once and I almost took -1% rei because of it.
So, it's pretty cute. The only thing to note is that the Academy typically takes a person six years to complete. Even gifted people don't get to progress much faster than that. So be prepared to tell Tabitha's story as a student for a long, long time.
55/55


Mango
[Insert filtration here]. I'm waiting to be scolded, by the way (your turn in our collab).

Fountain and Shield
It's really interesting to see two accomplished writers who have known one another for years and are pillars of the community write a first encounter with one another. It hits a lot of the old tropes of HD first encounters, but sets a pretty good example for keeping the whole thing interesting instead of rehashed which it so often feels. As always I could praise your writing, but the most important points to make about this conversation are about the way it takes the familiar narrative and raises the bar for everyone else.
130/130


Dil
I need to start making time to grade earlier...

But a Scratch
Little bit of article-noun disagreement, "a hypochondriacs", early on. But I actually kind of like the character's consistency; lying to doctors because that's just what assassins do doesn't honestly help you all that much, but that makes the fact that you follow through on that trait even more impressive.
70/71


Drag
So jealous that you're in on PMs.

Baseless Conjecture PM BONUS
So, though the name implies that it could all be nonsense, it's starting to look like things are coming together, especially considering the Earth-side missions going on right now. Doc was really the star of this show and you did your part keeping things connected to the larger narrative pretty solidly well. I'm excited to see where this goes from here.
219/219


Hiren
Oddball.

Gotei Gazette
This is weird. Have points. That's really all there is to say.
Oh, wait. One more thing. WTF Fendelaide?
107/107
 
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Val


Rage Is The Drug [76/76] + take div.


Ooh zombie clowns from hell! Man that was a fun chapter. I love the way you wrote things with a dark, harsh edge. I really feel like that's the way to go with the vizards. They are beings torn and wracked by an internal, painful struggle and that really works nicely here. I also feel like you hit Gekijin well this week.
 

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